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My son, age 7 with ADHD…

Question: My son,age 7, has been diagnosed with ADHD thru various neuro physc. tests including “Quotient” exam. He struggles in school and home to focus. He basically can’t complete any school assingment without 1/1 help for redirection etc.

I currently have him in cranio sacral therapy in hopes that midline and coordination therapy will help him. (he cant military crawl, crab crawl etc.) He will also starts vision therapy soon for a tracking problem.

I have a family history of hypothyroid My son shows no outward signs of it,, weight gain etc. But I have heard that it can cause ADHD symptoms in children. Is it worth it to have him checked?

If his thyroid levels come back normal, would anyone do a trial medication for him? My levels were normal despite numerous debilitating symptoms of hypo. Also, I cut my thyroid meds in half during the summer months as I recognize my needs changing. Then my hypo symptoms come back with a vengeance during winter months. I notice that my son has more difficulties in the winter and is moody. He has frequent skin problems (extremely dry, rashes, bumps etc) all winter.

I am cautious about ADHD meds. and I want to be certain there is no other underlying problems before I subject such a young child to them, but I worry I am looking at too many aspects when trying to help him.

Dr. Anne Fenton: You raise some interesting questions.  First, let me say that there is some research supporting the existence of “subclinical hypothyroidism”.  This is a condition in which some of the symptoms of hypothyroidism occur, but blood levels of thyroid hormone fall within normal range.

In the absence of lab data supporting clinical intervention, it would be quite risky to treat the condition with thyroid hormone.  The side effects of thryoid hormone supplement can be quite serious, sometimes even life threatening in and of themselves.  For example, excessive thyroid hormone therapy has been known to produce symptoms of tachycardia (rapid heart rate), high blood pressure, stroke, arrhythmias (irregular heart rate), hyperexcitability, hyperactivity, and even mania and psychosis.  So it is highly doubtful that you would find a pediatrician or pediatric endocrinologist who would treat your son for hypothyroidism without hard data.

In addition, given that your son has been diagnosed with ADHD, (attention deficit disorder with hyperactivity) and not ADD (attention deficit disorder without hyperactivity), it is unlikely that a low thyroid hormone level is the cause.  In hypothyroidism, people are sluggish, not hyperactive, and have attentional issues due to slowed brain function rather than due to distractability from external stimuli.

In terms of the relative risks of thyroid hormone supplement vs standard ADHD medication, it can be far less risky to offer him a trial of a short acting ADD medicine such as Ritalin or Adderall.  First, these medications are out of the system within hours.  They work quickly.  As soon as 20 to 30 minutes after taking them, a person can experience a noticeable improvement in their ADHD symptoms.  With thyroid hormone supplement, a person often does not experience the results of the trial for several weeks, and it takes up to 3 months of daily dosing to stabilize on any particular dose, and sometimes even longer to achieve observable results.

When I see a child with an ADHD diagnosis, I often recommend starting with a low dose of one of these medicines.  I look at it as a test dose, to see whether the medication will be helpful, and also to minimize the possible side effects.  The goal is to achieve the minimum optimal dose which will relieve the child’s symptoms so that he can function as well as possible without interference from side effects.  Typical side effects are appetite decrease and difficulty sleeping (if the medicine is taken after 4PM).  However, since these medicines primarily help children to focus at school, they are seldom needed beyond school or homework hours.  Therefore, they are out of the system by bedtime.

In addition, thyroid hormone has to be administered every day, whereas ADHD medicines can be given only on days they are needed, like school days.  Often, children do not take the ADHD medicines on weekends, holidays, summer vacation, etc. unless they need them for other symptoms associated with ADHD, such as reckless behaviors, oppositional behavior, defiance, or aggression, all of which can be symptoms of ADHD related impulse control issues.

In regard to your treatments that do not involve mediation trials, there are other programs that have been used with some success to “re-train” the ADHD brain.  Two software products that come to mind are “Cog-med” and “Fast-Forward”.  Suggested reading includes Doidge’s book called “The Brain that Changes Itself”.

All in all, the most effective, efficient, and reliable treatment for ADHD to date, in my opinion, remains Ritalin, Adderall, and their time released forms which offer up to about 10 hours rather than 3-4 hours of benefit per dose. That is not to say that medication and non-medication treatments are mutually exclusive.  I see many patients who employ a number of modalities simultaneously, depending on the nature of the condition, age, and other factors.  The school your son attends should also be involved in offering whatever academic modifications may be most helpful.

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What is a “medication cocktail”?

Question: I have been on the same four medications for years. I am happy to say that I have been doing well and am back to work.  I hardly even think about my symptoms unless it’s time to see my psychiatrist once every 6 months, or go and get a refill.

My girlfriend and I are getting pretty serious. I felt I had to tell her about my meds and why I take them. I am on two antidepressants and two medicines for anxiety.  She was OK with it.  She called it a “medication cocktail.” I’ve heard that before, and I figured it just means a combination of medicines that works well together.  But then I started wondering why I have two of the same kind of medicine? Wouldn’t one of each be enough?

Anne Fenton, MD: My patients often ask me this question, and it is an excellent one.  There are several reasons that people are given more than one medication for the same condition.

Sometimes, people respond only partially to one medication and need to enhance it with another of the same kind. Sometimes, they might have a partial response to a certain medication at a certain dose but can’t tolerate the side effects of a higher dose. Adding a different medicine helps achieve a better response without added side effects.

We often try after a while to streamline the “cocktail” by eliminating apparent duplications. However, this is easier said than done. One reason is that, even though more than one medication, (like your antidepressants), treat the same condition, it does not mean that they treat it in exactly the same way.  And even medications which are in the same “family” have differences in chemical structure which offer different benefits.

We tend to “lump together” a variety of symptoms into one word that describes the overall condition, like “depression”.  We forget that behind the general condition may be several different mechanisms that are going on in the brain.   You can see how one medication alone may not always provide the best treatment for a condition that represents more than one symptom, or is caused by more than one change in the brain’s chemistry.

In many cases, the balance created by a combination of medications in the system seems to provide a benefit beyond that of any individual medication.  This may be akin to the adage that “the sum is greater than its parts”.  If we tamper with that balance,  we often find that symptoms recur.  It appears that the balance itself is an important factor not only for achieving, but also maintaining emotional stability.

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When should I stop taking my medication…

Question: I have been seeing a psychopharmacologist.   He prescribed some medicine for me a few months ago.  It helped a lot, and now I feel fine.  I would like to stop taking my medication.  I think I’m ready. But whenever I bring it up with him, he talks me out of it, or changes the subject. I’d like to do it the right way.  Can you help?

Anne Fenton, MD: People often ask why they should be on a medication once they are feeling better.

You are right to bring this up with your prescriber. Part of his job is to explain how, when,and whether you should go off your medication.  Part of your job is to communicate your thoughts about it, as well as your interest in his guiding you safely through the process.

Generally speaking, the protocol for discontinuing medication varies with the particular type of medication, the response of the individual, the onset and duration of the original symptoms, the persistence or recurrence of symptoms over the period of treatment, and many other factors.

There are also standard treatment guidelines for suggested length of treatment based on research studies.  Researchers study the treatment outcomes of thousands of patients who have been on a particular medication.  They continue to monitor these patients for symptom recurrence after they have discontinued their medicine.  Researchers may review the results for groups of patients who were treated, say, for 6 months, a year, a year and a half, and two years.  Then the patients are monitored after discontinuing their medications for 6 months, a year, a year and a half, and two.  The recommended optimal length of treatment is based on which group had the lowest rate of recurrence over the longest period of time after discontinuing treatment.

Not everyone is able to discontinue medications indefinitely without recurrent symptoms.  There are many people whose symptoms simply require continued, lifelong treatment.  This is similar to any chronic medical condition.

Sometimes, people go off their medications and feel fine for a little while, but start to experience symptoms after a few months.  It can often take that long before the effect of the medicine wears off, even though it is out of the system within a few days after discontinuing.

It is thought that the initial and rapid positive response a person may experience within the first few weeks of treatment represents positive changes in brain chemistry mediated by the medication.  The longer, more stable positive changes result from physiological and anatomical changes in the brain that occur later as the brain recovers and returns to normal.

As you can see, your question does not have a simple answer.

When you and your prescriber feel the time is right to discontinue medication, it should be done carefully. You and your prescriber should work together closely to observe for any symptoms of withdrawal from the medication, or any recurrence of your original condition. The best and safest way to ensure your successful “medicine taper” is to do it slowly and carefully. Regular follow up even after discontinuation is recommended to monitor the possibility of recurrence and resume treatment if indicated.

It is also important to follow up with your prescriber at specified intervals over the two years following discontinuation.  If you do have recurrent symptoms, you will be in a good position to get help before your symptoms take hold.

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When do you tell your “significant other” that you see a therapist or take medication?

Question: When do you tell someone you are getting close to that you see a therapist and take medication?

Anne Fenton, MD: The simple answer is: when you are confident about yourself and your treatment.  Consider a person who has a family, a social life, and a job teaching in a university.  He also happens to have asthma.  Obviously, he is much more than simply an “asthmatic”.   He has to treat his symptoms so that they won’t interfere in his daily life, but  nothing more than that.

Similarly, even though psychiatric symptoms affect emotions and behavior rather than physical areas of the body, they are no more than symptoms of a condition that can be treated in order to carry on with normal life.  A person who has bouts of depression is not “a depressant” nor is a person with panic attacks “an anxiety disorder”.

Clearly  there are complexities to relationships and personalities.  A lot depends on trust, history, and approach.

Your question also touches on a larger issue: when, how, and whether to tell schools, employers, peers, managers, etc. There are many variations on this theme that space does not permit a more complete and inclusive answer.  However, I will be happy to respond to questions on specific situations as they come in.

Without a doubt, stigma continues to play a role in such situations.

All things considered, it would be useful to talk it over with your therapist, or anyone who knows you well and/or has been in a similar situation.

Hopefully one day we will progress to such a point that stigma is no longer an issue.

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Primary care or Psychiatrist? Who should treat?

Question: I have a male primary care who is treating my depression. My husband, who sees a psychiatrist, thinks I should see one, too, since they know more about all the conditions and medications and all that. Is he right, or am I ok to keep seeing my primary care? I think I’m doing fine, but I guess my husband thinks I could do better.

Anne Fenton, MD: My guess is that you wonder if your husband may be right. If that is the case, there is no harm in consulting a mental health professional. I am sure your primary care would have no problem referring you to someone for a second opinion. Our job in the medical profession is to help people in the best way possible. We know this often includes referring our patients to people whose opinion and expertise may prove to be more helpful to our patients.

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